I feel really proud of the book I’ve written. I’m really desperate for that contact and conversation. COVID variants willing, I’m ready to go on tour and connect with people. I feel like I have been cooped up with these ideas and these thoughts for like, two years, and I am ready to like, be on the loose. I finished edits on the book in like December/January. And I was on kind of an accelerated timeline. I feel like my brain is still sort of recovering from that.

I hate to be the person that leads with “I’m tired,” but I feel like writing a book is is a frankly terrible process. Thank you for asking! I’m feeling so many things. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, rate and review us in your podcast player! And subscribe to the Burnt Toast newsletter for episode transcripts, reported essays, and more. I think you will get so much out of it and even more out of her book Essential Labor, which I really recommend you run right out and get. It’s a really fun and sort of surprisingly funny conversation for what’s a pretty heavy topic. We’ve been sort of admiring one another from afar over the internet for several years now, and this is our first IRL conversation (Well, IRL+Zoom, if you will.) We talk a ton about her new book, which is about the social construction of modern motherhood and what we need to do to truly support mothers, but also all caregivers and care work. Today I am chatting with Angela Garbes, author of Like a Mother and the brilliant new book Essential Labor. Hello and welcome to Burnt Toast! This is the podcast where we talk about diet culture, fatphobia, parenting and health. Right? The thing that that leaves out is when you go outside of the home, who’s in the home? Like that work never went away.

And the whole thing was women find power and fulfillment and identity outside of the home by working professionally. We hear so much about Betty Friedan, and the Feminine Mystique.

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